The Weekly Magazine Interviewing His Eminence
Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim
The Weekly Magazine (Alesbuyia) published in Baghdad conducted an
in-depth interview with his Eminence al-Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim in the
private office of his Eminence al-Hakim, head of the Islamic Supreme
Council in Iraq and the leader of the United Iraqi Coalition. The
interview addressed many of the topics in the Iraqi arena and the latest
political and security developments as well as many of the issues that
concern the issue of Iraq and further other topics. Below is the written
version of the interview:
The Correspondent: What about the Supreme
Council preparations and expectations for the forthcoming provincial
elections where it would participate by the List of al-Mihrab Martyr?
Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim: I think that the elections are an
important and healthy station in the development of a democratic system
in Iraq; it is the right of all the political powers involved to
legitimately and honorably compete to win the trust of the Iraqi street,
which, in turn, puts its trust in whomever it wants; furthermore, it is
the right of every political entity to design its political program that
would help draw the political map of Iraq to carry out the democratic
project, and the Islamic Supreme Council is, no exception, making
efforts, like all other competing parties, to make Iraqis aware of its
political agenda through meetings, seminars, and activities. I disagree
with all those propagating the decline of Islamic political parties, and
I think that Iraqis still put their trust in the Islamic Supreme
Council. It is only two weeks before the truth of such readings unveiled
after the results of the elections would be disclosed.
The Correspondent: Media experts criticize
your electoral campaign, claiming that the List of al-Mihrab Martyr uses
the same tactics it used in its previous campaigns, i.e. making
advantage of the religious symbols to propagate and induce the public,
what is your viewpoint?.
Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim: We have to admit that most of the
political entities fix the pictures of their leaders into their
propaganda posters, and if the religious leaders of the Supreme Council
are originally wearing a certain religious uniform, are they required to
absent themselves from the election campaign, or otherwise wearing a new
suit; this is an overstatement. Regarding the popularity of the Supreme
Council among Iraqis, we still have two weeks ahead to see the results
of our campaign and we’d prefer actions rather than words. Besides, we
are not too rushing to deliver statements over our supporters’ trust in
us; we are quite confident that they trust us.
The Correspondent: Do you seek to make
parties, such as Asadr Current, the Islamic Virtue Party or others,
which withdrew from the Coalition rejoin it?
Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim: This idea is validly present and efforts
to bring these parties back have been underway right from the first day
they broke with the Alliance; not only these parties but other
parliamentarily non-represented parties are also involved. We need to
mobilize all potential powers for the sake of building our
in-infancy-still democracy which needs great efforts to establish
harmony. The democratic project cannot be restricted to limited
political powers or figures however they are influential; we are in the
phase of being widely open to all national powers and seeking to form
large-scaled frameworks to ensure a real momentum.
The Correspondent: Which of the political
currents and powers, in your viewpoint, could stand as the strongest
rival to the Supreme Council in the forthcoming elections?
Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim: All competitors are our friends;
and those who are competing with us in the elections are our future
friends or allies regardless of the elections turnout. We are not
concerned about the results and the Supreme Council is serious about the
involvement of all the competing powers, even rivals who have a single
seat in the Parliament or Provincial Councils; we seek that every
political entity or figure plays a role, including for instance the
Islamic Virtue Party and the Reform Current of Dr. al-Jafary; we look at
them all as friends and potential allies.
The Correspondent: The Supreme Council and
the United Iraqi Coalition are influential in the decision-making and
voting in the Parliament, why?
Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim: Of course, when the biggest bloc has the
weight, it will be influential in the decision-making; additionally,
when we look at the executive positions in the Iraqi government, we will
find compatible with the weight of the Supreme Council and the number of
votes it obtains; consequently if we find similar specifications and
criteria in a list other than that of al-Mihrab Martyr, we would
naturally side with it and give it our votes but not to men affiliated
with the List of al-Mihrab Martyr. Not only that, many the competing
powers will ally with us even if we would not give them our votes.
The Correspondent: The Supreme Council is
accused of being infiltrated by some Iranian figures working in its
formations, such as al-Furat Satellite Channel, is it so?
Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim: This is not true; if there is a need, it
is natural that we seek others’ expertise, whether Iranian or Turkish or
any other nationality. However, we did not need it so far, and we are
relying on the Iraqi figures from the Supreme Council. As for al-Furat
Channel, like any other infant channel, it needs the support of
specialized companies. We did contract with specialized Iranian
companies that helped us build the channel and their contracts expired
and the channel is run by Iraqi specialized cadres. Despite my many
remarks on its performance, I feel that the channel is suffering from
weakness and there are efforts to import Arab expertise (namely from
Lebanon) to develop the skills of our staffs. There is no harm to say
that Iraq needs cadres and technical supervision.
The Correspondent:
What about the calls to regionalize the province
of Basra, which may not go in line with the Supreme Council’s
aspirations to federalize the southern provinces… where do you stand
regarding the idea of the creation of a special region of Basra?
Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim: Provided that it is constitutional, any
idea is acceptable whether it goes with our estimates as persons, or
lies within the interests of Iraq. We have proposed the formation of the
Region of the South, but another idea, that of the Region of Basra, was
launched; though different from our visions, we accept the idea since it
is constitutional.
The Correspondent: In view of the health
status of your father, are you leading the Supreme Council or are you
are currently under preparation to lead it in the future?
Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim: It is well known that the Supreme Council
is an institution wherein there is neither a leader nor those led, but
there are regulations that govern the work of the Council’s committees
in all circumstances. There is no authoritarian decision-maker; it is
true that head of the Council is the one who decides, however, we have a
consultational system in the Council. The decision-making is carried out
generally through consultation. But in relation to the operational
aspects, there are specific tasks assigned to the presidency of the
Council and I wish I could help his Eminence in following them up and
carrying them out.
The Correspondent: The Supreme Council has
launched many criticisms of the Prime Minister over the mechanisms he
follows to deliver some of the decisions; do you really find Mr.
al-Malki authoritarian in his decisions?
Sayyed Ammar al-Hakim: Like other officials who assume positions
in the Iraqi government, the Prime Minister, needs others to help him
lead this country; he took unfortunate decisions and it is a normal
situation for anyone in his position ruling Iraq to do so. His
unfortunate decisions could be justifiable if one considers that our
experience is still young and that none is infallible. I think we should
consider others’ impressions about our performance; moreover, we have
started accumulating the expertise and experience necessary to identify
the weak and strong points of our experience here in Iraq and,
consequently, to hone the strong and neutralize the weak. Additionally,
I believe that if we reduce the problem into merely figures, we simplify
it. We must account for the nature of the complications our country
passes through; some of us consider the past and its tragedies and
others look at the mysterious future and their role therein. Iraq is the
intersection of international and regional interests, giving rise to
many considerations to which one cannot turn a blind eye. Searching for
someone to blame for our mistakes is not right and it is logical that we
reconsider and assess our project here in Iraq, seeking remedies,
building the state of institutions, assigning roles, and reinforce the
partnership in accordance with the Iraqi Constitution.
Translated by Dr. Ahmed al-Hameedawi